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  • gcseeker2002
    12-12 10:40 AM
    The following are various ways to express some one�s dissatisfaction/agony and draw some one else (Government/Media/Public) attention.

    1. Daily Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting from 6 AM to 6 PM. One group would pass on the fire to next group.
    2. Continuous Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting 24 hours a day. Such people should not have health issues like Blood Pressure, Gastric Trouble, Sugar, insulin deficiency, Heart relates issues. This may cuase arrest.
    3. Protesting : Conduct a rally with group/mass of people with immigration ply cards and banners.
    4. Wearing Black Ribbons : People would wear/put a small black ribbon on their shirt pockets (Upper left side of the chest) and attend duties. We can draw people attentions. Such ribbon should have white color immigration slogan printed on it.
    5. Distributing Flyers : Distributing Flyers/Handouts to people in respective areas.
    6. Banners : Display banner/show outs in the Traffic Island Medians
    7. Flower Campaign : Sending Flowers to respective people, also called Gandhi giri.
    8. Silent Sitting : Sitting in front of USCIS silently (no talk).
    9. Silent sitting in front of Senators house: Group of people should sit (kind of protest) in front of respective state senators. We can draw maximum MEDIA attention.
    10. Sweeping Roads : A group of people would sweep roads by wearing immigration slogans jackets.
    11. Organize Blood Donate Drives : Interested member would donate blood (We should explain to media, why we are doing so).
    12. Rally in All Major Cities : Conduct a rally in all Major cities (where we have at least 100 members) at the same time.


    We still have various other ways to express our dissatisfaction, however, they are little rude and could cause more issues.

    We should choose couple of ways from above to express our dissatisfaction. Members, feel free to add and delete from above list.

    P.S: We need prior permission from local authorities

    Looks like we have to some thing big at this Christmas season.
    I am sure most of us here (especially from India) were pampered and did not even clean their own study desks or rooms of their house when they were young, now they are ready to sweep the roads of a foreign country to get the foreign government attention to get their gc :)
    Humans, listen, life is not 1000 years, it is very short, dont waste the best part of your life waiting for gc.





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  • bkarnik
    11-09 09:52 AM
    With the Senate also now in Democratic hands, here is the likely makeup of the new Senate Committee Chairpersons.

    Sen. Harry Reid (NV) will be the new Majority Leader and Mitch McConnell(KY) will be the republican Minority Leader. The following Democratic Senators are likely to assume the Chairmanship of these committees in a Democratic Senate:

    Agriculture—Tom Harkin (IA)
    Appropriations—Robert Byrd (WV)
    Energy and Water Appropriations Subcommittee – Patty Murray (WA) or Mary Landrieu (LA)
    Armed Services—Carl Levin (MI)
    Strategic Forces Subcommittee –Bill Nelson (FL)
    Banking—Christopher Dodd (CT)
    *Budget—Kent Conrad (ND)
    Commerce, Science and Transportation—Daniel Inouye (HA)
    Energy and Natural Resources-- Jeff Bingaman (NM)
    Environment and Public Works—Barbara Boxer (CA)
    Clean Air, Climate Change, and Nuclear Security Subcommittee – Thomas Carper (DE)
    Finance—Max Baucus (MT)
    Foreign Relations—Joe Biden (DE)
    Health, Education, Labor and Pensions—Edward Kennedy (MA)
    Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs—Joe Lieberman(CT)
    Judiciary—Patrick Leahy (VT)
    Small Business—John Kerry (MA)
    Veterans’ Affairs—Daniel Akaka (HA)
    Select Committee on Intelligence—Jay Rockefeller (WV)

    All in all a very pro-immigrant Senate.





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  • 485_se_dukhi
    09-22 07:44 PM
    In trying to play the "devil's advocate", you still did not answer my question. i.e. "Let me ask you a simple question. What CAN be the "perceived benefit" from a rally like this that would make you think that it would be worth attending? Is it something like a guarantee for a GC in 2 months or a bill that passes next month that does everything we legals want? What is it?"


    i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me...
    With all due respect, I do not think you have a clue as to what a 7 year wait can be like. Having received your GC in 7 months, now I understand where all this critiquing is coming from (without offering any solution of course).


    People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........

    I'm still trying to understand your point...you do not want us to quote Gandhi, MLK or any others that could inspire and motivate us. You do not think a big rally will help. You do not think meeting lawmakers will help. As Walking_dude remarked before, so WHAT do YOU suggest we do?

    unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!

    Can you give a few examples of these "drastic and dramatic measures" that will give us "concrete changes"? I'm sure we are all ears and will be willing to employ these.

    You have such an active and analytical mind. Why not use it for something constructive like suggesting actual concrete steps that IV can take.


    if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests..
    Your point being....? That we should not request or discuss our issues with law makers? Or because of the Iraq war quagmire, Congress will not take any other decision or pass any other bill until that is resolved??

    Lastly, you mentioned about your pet peeve
    america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC.

    My first reaction. You're kidding, right! Ever worked in marketing/sales?? When you go to sell your product or service, you try to sell it from the point of view of the customer. In this case, what the benefit can be from the point of view of the US govt and US economy. Yes, our primary aim is to get our GC's in a reasonable time frame. The slogans and messages are in support of these ( By the way both happen to be true).

    Incidentally, even the spark in Gandhi was ignited when he personally was insulted and thrown from a train. My point being that it is only when we personally are affected by an issue that we react to it. The reaction ofcourse differs based on our own individual character, personality and other traits.


    appreciate your comments - but as i said in my post clearly that I accept the probability that my views are wrong.....

    ""on the other hand if one day it so transpires that this rally was the historic starting point of major immigration reforms triggered by a group of pioneering individuals - i would have no choice but to eat my words and hang my head in shame that i did not attend.............""


    But look at it this way......i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me....if people who are waiting saw the utility of the rally....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......

    People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc.......if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests....besides gandhi had the courage to stand up to police brutality, get arrested etc.....in today's days and age - as white collared professionals - do we have the guts and will to do that? For example - we cannot even strike (non cooperation/ civil disobedience movement)....because we get paid by our respective private sector employers.....and our grudge is against the Govt - who do we strike against......?? and if we do strike or court arrest or adopt other forms of civil protest and by chance run up a police record in the process.......who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!


    Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.

    another point people have been harping on (apologies for bringing this up but this is my only pet peeve amongst all the other wise great things that happen on this forum).......america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........


    so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!

    just to take the "popular" Gandhian analogy a step further......There was Home Rule League and Congress in existence in India for a long time.....their objective was to petition the British Govt for small changes........and their ultimate goal was to get dominion status for india......only when Gandhi came on board plus supporters of other proactive forms of protest.....like Subhash Bose.....Tilak etc and the armed freedom struggle started (Bhagat Singh, Azad et al)......did Congress wake up and ask for "purna swaraj" (complete independence).......so from 1885 (founding of congress) to 1930 (Lahore Session of Congress when purna swaraj declaration was made) - nothing happened......british empire went from strength to strength.......then in 17 years - India got independence.......

    pl think about what i wrote objectively......and dont jump on me just because i am playing devil's advocate





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  • seekerofpeace
    09-11 10:05 PM
    Do you want to have similar polls on:
    marrying
    buying a car
    having children...

    There is something which is personal...buying a house is one such...opinion poll shouldn't decide that....GC or not if you feel like buy one...

    We went thru the same decision 3 years back but not buying a house was one of the best decisions....the best way is to ask people who are selling houses....in the northeast it is a hell to sell houses.

    My suggestion if you are a medico or a lawyer go ahead....but being attached to the tech sector is no safety net for buying a house....I have had friends with 300K take home file for bankruptcy in this economy after both members loose very lucrative jobs....just a statistic...by 2010 more than 50% households in the USA will owe more for mortgage than their houses net worth.....

    Again it is an individualistic decision....go ahead if you feel confident...two things you must make sure you are in the house for at least 3 years....tax savings are no security...house tax and work on the house do add costs up....

    + House in USA is no longer an equity proposition but a liability...

    SoP






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  • another one
    10-05 11:16 AM
    GOP has mostly supported. It's the Democrats we need to get on board. Basically, we need to get our amendments in and convince Democrats to support without bringing in the issue of illegals.

    Core, any directions or strategy? The democrats i met on the lobby day were supportive. Is there a way we can get unconditional support from either party within next month?

    As i see it we should focus on lobbying with national congress in next month. There will be plenty of time for state chapters and socializing after that.





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  • crystal
    12-16 11:05 AM
    you can contribute even small amounts with paypal account ..
    payments directed towards ... donations@immigrationvoice.org






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  • frostrated
    10-16 06:33 PM
    Hi All,

    My son was born last month and applied for US passport. Once I get the passport I am planning to apply for PIO card in Texas. Can you please let me know if I need to send my son's original passport and the processing time. Can you please also let me know if anyone recently applied?

    Thanks
    you dont need to send the original passport. you will need to send a copy of the passport though.





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  • skillet
    07-19 11:36 AM
    EB2 Delivered on July 9th / UPS






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  • jindhal
    09-05 04:24 PM
    There is another part in the I-131 rules document that you havent read,

    "If you are in the United States and seek advance parole:
    A. You may apply if you have an adjustment- of- status application pending and you seek to travel abroad for emergent personal or bona fide business reasons; "

    which sorta makes any personal visit an eligible for AP visit.


    Here is the relevant info from USCIS site (I-131 instructions)

    Link (http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-131instr.pdf)

    Advance parole is an extraordinary measure used sparingly to bring an otherwise inadmissible alien to the United States for a temporary period of time due to a compelling emergency. Advance parole cannot be used to circumvent the normal visa issuing procedures and is not a means to bypass delays in visa issuance.


    _____________________________________
    Proud Indian American and Legal Immigrant





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  • learning01
    04-26 01:27 PM
    国会移民法进入关键阶段,大家行动起来,支持immigrationvoice.org!

    文章来源: lanzhouer 于 2006-04-02 07:42:34

    http://www.wenxuecity.com/images/wxc-logo.gif

    ============ translation (thanks to Google) ===========
    Congressional immigration law entered a critical stage, we take action and support immigrationvoice.org!

    The article sources : Lanzhouer In 2006-04-02 07:42:34
    ===========================
    LINK (http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=immigration&MsgID=166941)






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  • nrk
    08-11 08:47 AM
    There is no chance of moving forward in October, But I believe there is every possibility of the dates staying as it is and move forward in December Visa bulletin.

    I might be wrong that is my wish.

    Its 26May. I don't think they will move something in Oct right???





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  • chanduv23
    07-20 04:57 PM
    We have a huge task ahead of us. Looks like anti immigrants working against us.

    Surprised Hillary and gang did this.






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  • ivgclive
    10-03 10:29 AM
    Citizenship by Birth
    ---------------------
    Any person born in India on or after 26 January 1950 but prior to the commencement of the 1986 Act on 1 July 1987 was a citizen of India by birth. A person born in India on or after 1 July 1987 was a citizen of India if either parent was a citizen of India at the time of the birth. Those born in India on or after 3 December 2004 are considered citizens of India only if both of their parents are citizens of India or if one parent is a citizen of India and the other is not an illegal migrant at the time of their birth.

    Citizenship by Descent
    ----------------------
    Persons born outside India on or after 26 January 1950 but before 10 December 1992 are citizens of India by descent if their father was a citizen of India at the time of their birth.

    Person born outside India on or after 10 December 1992 are considered as citizens of India if either of their parents is a citizen of India at the time of their birth.

    From 3 December 2004 onwards, persons born outside of India shall not be considered citizens of India unless their birth is registered at an Indian consulate within one year of the date of birth. In certain circumstances it is possible to register after 1 year with the permission of the Central Government. The application for registration of the birth of a minor child must be made to an Indian consulate and must be accompanied by an undertaking in writing from the parents of such minor child that he or she does not hold the passport of another country.

    Citizenship by Registration
    ----------------------------
    The Central Government may, on an application, register as a citizen of India under section 5 of the Citizenship Act 1955 any person (not being an illegal migrant) if he belongs to any of the following categories:


    a person of Indian origin who is ordinarily resident in India for seven years before making an application for registration;
    a person of Indian origin who is ordinarily resident in any country or place outside undivided India;
    a person who is married to a citizen of India and is ordinarily resident in India for seven years before making an application for registration;
    minor children of persons who are citizens of India;
    a person of full age and capacity whose parents are registered as citizens of India by ordinary residence in India for seven years;
    a person of full age and capacity who, or either of his parents, was earlier citizen of independent India, and has been residing in India for one year immediately before making an application for registration;
    a person of full age and capacity who has been registered as an overseas citizen of India for five years, and who has been residing in India for one year before making an application for registration.

    Citizenship by Naturalization
    ---------------------
    Citizenship of India by naturalization can be acquired by a foreigner who has resided in India for twelve years. The applicant must have lived a total of 11 years in India in a period of 14 years, and must have spent in India the past 12 months preceding the application.





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  • pd_recapturing
    12-29 11:06 PM
    Please ignore if it has already been posted. This article looks interesting considering the current economic and immigration situation

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html






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  • h1b_slave
    08-16 04:51 PM
    I never understood this "exploitation thing". This is America...

    Exploitation is employer(i.e consulting company) takes 30 - 40% cut from billing from people on H1 but is ready to work on 5-10% commision with people with EAD or GC . (this is no exaggeration talk to EAD/GC guys & you will find many)

    If someone is exploiting we all have a choice. We can change employers; go back home, etc.


    It may not be a totally open market but it is not like you have handcuffs around you. This type of talk of exploiting, slavery only hurts everyones cause.

    Changing employer means start over GC process again unless you have 140. with 140 too many people are not very comfortable switching.


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  • jcrajput
    09-05 03:00 PM
    EB2
    PD - OCT 2006
    I485 Applied # July 2nd reached at NSC
    No receipts, no check cashed






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  • truthinspector
    07-09 02:42 PM
    Aaj nahin uthogey toh kab uthogey....
    means.....
    If not today, when shall you wake up????

    as somebody was suggesting in another thread, can you please post your comments in English for non-hindi speakers like me. Thanks.





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  • 485Mbe4001
    04-09 03:03 PM
    :rolleyes: Maybe one day it will be the only option available to us...maybe there is an indian dream, i know there is an indian summer.

    I'd say, we've waited enough(6-12 years). I know we are all chasing the american dream (perhaps it is just a dream), we should just make peace and move back. Thank you congress, america for giving ppl (from so called 3rd world nations) like us the chance to come and serve this great nation.

    mind you.. dont forget to take back your $$$





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  • chanduv23
    10-03 11:41 AM
    ^^^^^^^^^





    amitjoey
    06-30 01:13 PM
    I am not sure about this but one thng can certainly happen with Admin Fix.
    Porting of applicant who have stayed long enough in (EB3 to EB2). EB3 15 years experience and still counting and stuck and uncertain porting rules and AC21 doesn't make sense at all.
    Or
    AC21 rules or some other fix giving relief to people stuck in GC unnecessarily.
    USCIs can make these fixes but they dont want to do it. Its simple

    I wish it was so easy. USCIS cannot just do fixes on their own. Getting the administration to support us and get some fixes is what IV is working on.

    I wish more people had come to the advocacy event. They would have seen first hand what amount of hard work has been put in. The kind of commitment and personal sacrifices members have put in to not only get the ball rolling on the admin fixes but also building relationships on the hill.





    SlipperyGC
    03-27 10:45 PM
    There has been established a way to deal with backlogs at Dallas and Philly, and these officials at PBEC and DBEC have been given a deadline of Sept 2007 to clear everything. So someting is and will be done in this regard. Not much more can be done here with PBEC or DBEC, and the real test is to get solutions for the retrogression.
    Once the laws are passed on the immigration reforms, its a done deal my friend, and then it does not matter how much we try after this to address retrogression. This is our only chance.
    BUT realize that there have been delays in PBEC and DBEC only because of lack of resources, which can be added or taken off...and this will speed up or slow down DBEC or PBEC. This can be controlled outside legislation.
    BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH RETROGRESSION. NO VISA NUMBERS = NO PROGRESS TOWARDS FINAL GREEN CARD. DONE DEAL.

    SO PLEASE FIGHT FOR RETROGRESSION AND DO NOT LOSE FOCUS BY FOCUSSING ON PBEC AND DBEC. PBEC AND DBEC IS JUST A RESOURCE ISSUE AND NOT A NUMBERS AVAILABILITY ISSUE. LETS NOT LOSE THE WAR TRYING TO WIN A SMALL BATTLE.


    Please shut your mouth. You do not know and feel what we are going thru (PBEC victim). As a member of this community, and have contibuted monetary support, I too, would like to have the problem in PBEC be heard.

    There is only one thing I suggest, please do not have this guy "prolegalimmi" speak in front of the congressman.



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