sanju
07-14 06:13 PM
Ok paskal, just because you are saying so. Otherwise, posts from the paid employees of these guys are very aggravating. These guys are making the situation worst and provoking guys like me to respond. I will not respond if these idiots will stop singing songs about the greatness of these opportunist guys who were no where seen in last 2 years. Now all of a sudden, when something is happening in the media, rather than joining the cheerleading squad, these hypocrites have emerged from a black-hole claiming to be champions of this community. Idiots…..
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Maverick_2008
05-02 08:13 PM
For upper middle class, OBC shouldn't matter much since you can afford to enroll your children in private schools and have them work in private sector once they reach an appropriate age. If they are US citizens, they can come back to the US anytime for education and/or employment.
Talking of reservation and discrimination, what legal immigrants are facing in this country is not much different in my opinion. You can't even get your driver's license easily, let alone permanent residence. Most of us are here by choice even though we face all these issues in our daily life.
Maverick_2008
Yes my note was for humor.
But to answer questions :
out of all useful land , I guess africa has lots of uninhabited land!, so someone would not mind selling! Its not to offend anyone. I have great respect for africans, being aware that we come from them!
Me being an indian upper class guy, and this OBC thing going on back home, I dont think I belong to that country that much, where me/my children will be discreminated against!!!
So dont you guys now think we need our OWN country???
Talking of reservation and discrimination, what legal immigrants are facing in this country is not much different in my opinion. You can't even get your driver's license easily, let alone permanent residence. Most of us are here by choice even though we face all these issues in our daily life.
Maverick_2008
Yes my note was for humor.
But to answer questions :
out of all useful land , I guess africa has lots of uninhabited land!, so someone would not mind selling! Its not to offend anyone. I have great respect for africans, being aware that we come from them!
Me being an indian upper class guy, and this OBC thing going on back home, I dont think I belong to that country that much, where me/my children will be discreminated against!!!
So dont you guys now think we need our OWN country???
pappu
05-27 08:32 AM
Dear Members,
We have worked hard in the last 4 years and have made some progress along the way Immigration Voice Achievements (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=47) But Most of us are still in the limbo of green card process and waiting in different stages. Some of us may have advanced to the I-485 stage and have a little more career flexibility but the hanging sword of uncertainty still looms over our heads.
Our angst, our insecurity:
Even with EAD and other options, lack of green card is lack of security and lack of certainty. You know it and you feel it every day. In order to find a permanent fix for the uncertainty, angst and insecurity and in order to snap out of the probationary lifestyle and career, we have to finish what we started over 4 years ago -- get the U.S. Congress to act on this problem and solve it once and for all.
Early effort wins:
The first agenda of next Congress will be immigration and we expect an immigration bill to be debated sometime in early 2011. However, it would be a big mistake to wait until that time to do something about that bill. Successful advocacy efforts are the ones that start early and introduce concepts and ideas into the debate before the legislators write their first draft. Once the committee hearings and debates begin, it is harder to get changes or fixes into a bill because it requires an amendment to the bill in a politically charged and heated atmosphere. Groups and organizations that wait until the last minute to influence members of congress often fail to achieve results. In order to succeed in next year's immigration bill, we have to begin talking to members of congress now. Remember, the advocacy efforts we did with lobby day and rally in Sept 2007 influenced congress to include our provisions in bipartisan bills introduced in Aug 2008. Legislative things take time.
How you can help:
You and help in two different ways:
Join the advocacy effort in DC on June 7th and 8th. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html) If you have never done this before, we encourage you to help us with this and join us. Immigration voice will arrange the logistics of setting up meetings and arranging the material for you to take to your Congressmen and Senators. We are expecting about 150 immigration voice members to gather in DC and participate in over 200 meetings with Congressmen and Senators.
Contributing Funds to help finance the effort (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1534974-funding-drive-iv-needs-your-support-for-advocacy-events-in-dc.html). You are most welcome to come to DC and join us but if your job demands are such that you cannot take two days off on June 7th and 8th, then you can still contribute to this effort by contributing financially to Immigration Voice. Many expenses tied to the travel of grassroots members from distant states is being expensed by Immigration Voice. So kindly contribute funds to this effort by clicking on this link. You have an obligation to yourself and your family to plant your career in this country once and for all. EAD and AP, if you have them, are not going to cut it. We are not there yet. And we have to finish together what we started together.
Thank you.
Immigration Voice. (ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.immigrationvoice.org)).
We have worked hard in the last 4 years and have made some progress along the way Immigration Voice Achievements (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=47) But Most of us are still in the limbo of green card process and waiting in different stages. Some of us may have advanced to the I-485 stage and have a little more career flexibility but the hanging sword of uncertainty still looms over our heads.
Our angst, our insecurity:
Even with EAD and other options, lack of green card is lack of security and lack of certainty. You know it and you feel it every day. In order to find a permanent fix for the uncertainty, angst and insecurity and in order to snap out of the probationary lifestyle and career, we have to finish what we started over 4 years ago -- get the U.S. Congress to act on this problem and solve it once and for all.
Early effort wins:
The first agenda of next Congress will be immigration and we expect an immigration bill to be debated sometime in early 2011. However, it would be a big mistake to wait until that time to do something about that bill. Successful advocacy efforts are the ones that start early and introduce concepts and ideas into the debate before the legislators write their first draft. Once the committee hearings and debates begin, it is harder to get changes or fixes into a bill because it requires an amendment to the bill in a politically charged and heated atmosphere. Groups and organizations that wait until the last minute to influence members of congress often fail to achieve results. In order to succeed in next year's immigration bill, we have to begin talking to members of congress now. Remember, the advocacy efforts we did with lobby day and rally in Sept 2007 influenced congress to include our provisions in bipartisan bills introduced in Aug 2008. Legislative things take time.
How you can help:
You and help in two different ways:
Join the advocacy effort in DC on June 7th and 8th. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1437978-iv-announcement-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-7th-and-8th-june.html) If you have never done this before, we encourage you to help us with this and join us. Immigration voice will arrange the logistics of setting up meetings and arranging the material for you to take to your Congressmen and Senators. We are expecting about 150 immigration voice members to gather in DC and participate in over 200 meetings with Congressmen and Senators.
Contributing Funds to help finance the effort (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1534974-funding-drive-iv-needs-your-support-for-advocacy-events-in-dc.html). You are most welcome to come to DC and join us but if your job demands are such that you cannot take two days off on June 7th and 8th, then you can still contribute to this effort by contributing financially to Immigration Voice. Many expenses tied to the travel of grassroots members from distant states is being expensed by Immigration Voice. So kindly contribute funds to this effort by clicking on this link. You have an obligation to yourself and your family to plant your career in this country once and for all. EAD and AP, if you have them, are not going to cut it. We are not there yet. And we have to finish together what we started together.
Thank you.
Immigration Voice. (ImmigrationVoice.org - Home (http://www.immigrationvoice.org)).
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rdehar
05-02 05:18 PM
Kids,
Let us talk about EB3-India category experiencing the discrimination against EB2-India. Why there are few EB3-India approvals this FY so far???????.
One of my friend with same PD as me (Jun 2004) got approved sometime in Aug/Sep 2007. His labor was pproved in a month from NH and I-485 was filed long back when dates were current for EB3 India (early 2005?).
It is for sure that there are a few EB3 approvals this FY ? I know a lot more guys with PDs in 2002 and 2003 who got approved.
Let us talk about EB3-India category experiencing the discrimination against EB2-India. Why there are few EB3-India approvals this FY so far???????.
One of my friend with same PD as me (Jun 2004) got approved sometime in Aug/Sep 2007. His labor was pproved in a month from NH and I-485 was filed long back when dates were current for EB3 India (early 2005?).
It is for sure that there are a few EB3 approvals this FY ? I know a lot more guys with PDs in 2002 and 2003 who got approved.
nandakumar
05-11 12:08 PM
Even though i hope for the best but my least expectaion is to allow us to file 485 even without PD being current and exempt the family members to be included in the GC count.
oliTwist
11-17 04:46 PM
My god! Check this out!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/16/MNSL145QF5.DTL
What do you think about this? Is this something related to this discussion?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/16/MNSL145QF5.DTL
What do you think about this? Is this something related to this discussion?
ganguteli
02-25 09:34 AM
You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.
Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
gcnotfiledyet is a LAWYER in disguise.
Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
gcnotfiledyet is a LAWYER in disguise.
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indyanguy
10-01 07:45 PM
From what I can gather, from the immigration perspective:
1. If you are on H1 - You can technically start a business but since you cannot "work" towards it, in practice it's almost impossible
2. If you are on H1 and have an EAD - You can start a business. But if you use your EAD, you are no longer on H1. (There are contradicting views on using EAD for PT while still maintaining H1. For now, this is a grey area)
3. If you are on EAD -
a. If you plan to work on your business on a part time basis and stay with your sponsored job full time, I don't see a problem with this.
b. If you plan to work on your business full time, you might have an issue with a RFE at the I-485 stage as you would have used AC21 for self employment (Some people say this is okay, but it depends on your risk taking ability)
Thoughts?
1. If you are on H1 - You can technically start a business but since you cannot "work" towards it, in practice it's almost impossible
2. If you are on H1 and have an EAD - You can start a business. But if you use your EAD, you are no longer on H1. (There are contradicting views on using EAD for PT while still maintaining H1. For now, this is a grey area)
3. If you are on EAD -
a. If you plan to work on your business on a part time basis and stay with your sponsored job full time, I don't see a problem with this.
b. If you plan to work on your business full time, you might have an issue with a RFE at the I-485 stage as you would have used AC21 for self employment (Some people say this is okay, but it depends on your risk taking ability)
Thoughts?
sathishav
03-09 12:24 PM
Here is the timeline for folks that are not serious
EB2 India: Waiting for July - October spillovers thinking that most EB2 will be current. The prediction threads have hyped this a lot. Many will benefit this year. But many will miss this bus too. Some from those who will miss this bus, would be back wanting to do something in Nov - May timeframe. Others will waste their time on predictions and trackers and make those site owners rich.
EB3 India: Many who filed in July 2007 are still happy with EAD status. They worry and contact IV only if their I140 is revoked, I485 denied or if EAD renewal is delayed. Some still sulk or want to blame someone (even IV) for their delays. Those who have not filed I485 yet are few in number. Many new Eb3s still do not know the extent of the backlogs. With time they will slowly learn about the backlogs and wait times. When they suffer due to lack of EAD, they will all make noise on IV asking for some action. This is the reason why the I485 filing action item thread is still weak and pre-mature. I would give another 2 years for the non-I485 folks to have retrogression sink in.
Retrogression is not going away. If it goes away, only applicants will benefit from it. And these applicants are too weak and small in number to even raise their voice. So why would anyone pass a law to make these people happy that do not even want any law changed. After 2 years all the folks who are not participating in advocacy days and contributing, will contribute to IV. At that time, if we in core are still around, would rather ask them to lead the effort if they can and if they are really serious. The current advocacy day campaign and contributions are a measure of seriousness for us to plan our next agenda items.
Agree with Pappu.
We maybe happy now with EAD, but, we never know. Consider this, as per Yates memo
This memo is just a "interim guidance" and NOT a law. That does not make me very comfy. If it is a law, we can always appeal in court. Not sure about an "interim guidance "
It also clearly mentions, "this is an interm guidance and the final law can be more restrictive".
In the Yates memo, the 180 day rule is very Lenient , which many of us interpreted or will interpret in our favor.
EB2 India: Waiting for July - October spillovers thinking that most EB2 will be current. The prediction threads have hyped this a lot. Many will benefit this year. But many will miss this bus too. Some from those who will miss this bus, would be back wanting to do something in Nov - May timeframe. Others will waste their time on predictions and trackers and make those site owners rich.
EB3 India: Many who filed in July 2007 are still happy with EAD status. They worry and contact IV only if their I140 is revoked, I485 denied or if EAD renewal is delayed. Some still sulk or want to blame someone (even IV) for their delays. Those who have not filed I485 yet are few in number. Many new Eb3s still do not know the extent of the backlogs. With time they will slowly learn about the backlogs and wait times. When they suffer due to lack of EAD, they will all make noise on IV asking for some action. This is the reason why the I485 filing action item thread is still weak and pre-mature. I would give another 2 years for the non-I485 folks to have retrogression sink in.
Retrogression is not going away. If it goes away, only applicants will benefit from it. And these applicants are too weak and small in number to even raise their voice. So why would anyone pass a law to make these people happy that do not even want any law changed. After 2 years all the folks who are not participating in advocacy days and contributing, will contribute to IV. At that time, if we in core are still around, would rather ask them to lead the effort if they can and if they are really serious. The current advocacy day campaign and contributions are a measure of seriousness for us to plan our next agenda items.
Agree with Pappu.
We maybe happy now with EAD, but, we never know. Consider this, as per Yates memo
This memo is just a "interim guidance" and NOT a law. That does not make me very comfy. If it is a law, we can always appeal in court. Not sure about an "interim guidance "
It also clearly mentions, "this is an interm guidance and the final law can be more restrictive".
In the Yates memo, the 180 day rule is very Lenient , which many of us interpreted or will interpret in our favor.
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gk_2000
03-09 03:15 PM
Not to spark a fight or anything, but I would like to congratulate all the EB3I's who became current since Jan.. great going! We are at April 02!
pd_recapturing
12-29 11:06 PM
Please ignore if it has already been posted. This article looks interesting considering the current economic and immigration situation
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
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gc_kaavaali
08-03 03:38 PM
Hi frostrated,
do you have any source/link to prove your point? Just asking.
Thank you
USCIS will go according to the ND. They will not follow PD. PD is used only to make the application eligible for adjudication or to apply for AOS. One filed, it is the application ND that takes priority. For example, if there are two EB2 applications, and the PD for the two are Aug 2002 and Aug 2004, and the ND for these two are June 2006 and Jan 2006 respectively, the applicaiton with ND of Jan 2006 gets priority, provided both PD are current.
do you have any source/link to prove your point? Just asking.
Thank you
USCIS will go according to the ND. They will not follow PD. PD is used only to make the application eligible for adjudication or to apply for AOS. One filed, it is the application ND that takes priority. For example, if there are two EB2 applications, and the PD for the two are Aug 2002 and Aug 2004, and the ND for these two are June 2006 and Jan 2006 respectively, the applicaiton with ND of Jan 2006 gets priority, provided both PD are current.
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chaukas
08-27 03:48 PM
I kind of remember last time when I had applied online for AP , I had to go to the USCIS office for FP, so most likely your FP was for AP not for 485.
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From Immigration Fight Goes On Without Some Troops (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=171495&postcount=1126) By June Kronholz | Wall Street Journal, September 20, 2007
With a comprehensive immigration bill unlikely to be revived in this Congress, supporters now are trying to pass smaller pieces of the original.
Third could be a business-backed measure that vastly increases the number of visas available to highly skilled workers.
Meanwhile, NumbersUSA, which helped kill the overhaul bill in June, is at it again. Members of the grass-roots group flooded Senate offices with faxed letters of opposition to the bill last spring. Now, it�s urging members to call their senators, and offers talking points should they be connected. Among them: Illegal immigrants would get in-state tuition, while out-of-state citizens don�t.
With a comprehensive immigration bill unlikely to be revived in this Congress, supporters now are trying to pass smaller pieces of the original.
Third could be a business-backed measure that vastly increases the number of visas available to highly skilled workers.
Meanwhile, NumbersUSA, which helped kill the overhaul bill in June, is at it again. Members of the grass-roots group flooded Senate offices with faxed letters of opposition to the bill last spring. Now, it�s urging members to call their senators, and offers talking points should they be connected. Among them: Illegal immigrants would get in-state tuition, while out-of-state citizens don�t.
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GooblyWoobly
09-12 09:57 PM
welcome to the world of retrogression. it is only going to get worse from here on out.
with the deluge of filings in june/july and aug. this year....the retrogression will get worse. USCIS will not make the same mistake again.
I see this prediction every now and then. Why don't you guys get your facts straight. Retrogression will remain the SAME. The pace at which they process GC's is not going to change. It's just applications moved from your home queue to the USCIS queue. Why would that make retrogression worse?? Think before you talk!!
with the deluge of filings in june/july and aug. this year....the retrogression will get worse. USCIS will not make the same mistake again.
I see this prediction every now and then. Why don't you guys get your facts straight. Retrogression will remain the SAME. The pace at which they process GC's is not going to change. It's just applications moved from your home queue to the USCIS queue. Why would that make retrogression worse?? Think before you talk!!
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GooblyWoobly
09-17 04:11 AM
I think Wah Wah is confused by the differences between 'retrogression' and 'backlog'. Of course, you are right that the PDs are not likely to go much further back (I think USCIS took a conservative approach after July - note they are still issuing visas to those with non-current PDs but are using the bulletin to limit incoming new filings). However, if 20 million applied in July the coming backlogs would be horrendous, even though priority dates would not necessarily need to go back further.
However, in a sense, if the backlog is perpetual, and let's say the PD never really moves forward by more than, for example, one month, in the next 10 years (I'm picking extremes to make my point) then the effective retrogression at that point would be greater than say todays.
Phew. Anyway, I think that's what he was on about!
:)
That'd happen even with or without July Fiasco. If there were 20 million people with PD in 2006, as soon as the PD in VB reaches 2006, that many people will apply, and the PD will be stuck there forever. So, what my point is, July Fiasco made NO DIFFERENCE to retrogression (except the effect of some resources at USCIS spent on receipting/issuing EAD&AP).
I agree it's very bad, and we need to fight it. But I just didn't want to people panic on something that's un-true. I'm tired of the FUD, that's it!! Just see, now in another thread somebody is speculating about discrimination against Indians inside USCIS!!
However, in a sense, if the backlog is perpetual, and let's say the PD never really moves forward by more than, for example, one month, in the next 10 years (I'm picking extremes to make my point) then the effective retrogression at that point would be greater than say todays.
Phew. Anyway, I think that's what he was on about!
:)
That'd happen even with or without July Fiasco. If there were 20 million people with PD in 2006, as soon as the PD in VB reaches 2006, that many people will apply, and the PD will be stuck there forever. So, what my point is, July Fiasco made NO DIFFERENCE to retrogression (except the effect of some resources at USCIS spent on receipting/issuing EAD&AP).
I agree it's very bad, and we need to fight it. But I just didn't want to people panic on something that's un-true. I'm tired of the FUD, that's it!! Just see, now in another thread somebody is speculating about discrimination against Indians inside USCIS!!
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spouse485
01-14 02:19 PM
Guys, can you clarify my doubts. thanks in advance.
1. I have got H-1B valid from Oct 1st, 2007, but I have not started working yet. I am going to India next month and want to come back using AP (obtined thru my husband's GC process). Will there be any problem at port of entry?
2. What should I tell at POE about my H-1B visa? Do I need show any pay stubs or employment letter?
3. Is it better to revoke my h-1B before I go to India to avoid this confusion ? If so, how do I revoke H-1B
1. I have got H-1B valid from Oct 1st, 2007, but I have not started working yet. I am going to India next month and want to come back using AP (obtined thru my husband's GC process). Will there be any problem at port of entry?
2. What should I tell at POE about my H-1B visa? Do I need show any pay stubs or employment letter?
3. Is it better to revoke my h-1B before I go to India to avoid this confusion ? If so, how do I revoke H-1B
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gc_mania_03
10-14 05:59 AM
AP Filed/Reciept date: June 1, 2010
Created an SR request : ~ September 20, just got standard email saying Intial Review is still in progress.
We have an Info-pass appointment tomorrow. We chose the 45 day not response option. Not sure if that is ok when we get there.
Is there anything else I need to know before I meet a rep during the Infopass appointment.
We plan to take all relevant documents, along with a copy of email from a conference in Canada where my wife is invited.
Any input will be great.
-Thx
Created an SR request : ~ September 20, just got standard email saying Intial Review is still in progress.
We have an Info-pass appointment tomorrow. We chose the 45 day not response option. Not sure if that is ok when we get there.
Is there anything else I need to know before I meet a rep during the Infopass appointment.
We plan to take all relevant documents, along with a copy of email from a conference in Canada where my wife is invited.
Any input will be great.
-Thx
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brb2
06-20 10:27 AM
Those of you who are now thinking that being able to file 485 will give you freedom - just read through the list to see how many 485 filers (mainly Indians and Chinese) are stuck in the name check russian roullette.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?nc082505
This is one of the biggest bottleneck to 485 and naturalization processing. Most would think it would catch moslems - in reality it catches anyone in "hi-tech" and more often than not Indians, Chinese and Russians. And ofcourse Koreans too. One of the person's stuck in name check commented on the above link - if the FBI knew that a fifth of the nation shares the last name Kim! I guess the same would go for Wu, Yu, Zhou, Singh, Kumar etc.
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?nc082505
This is one of the biggest bottleneck to 485 and naturalization processing. Most would think it would catch moslems - in reality it catches anyone in "hi-tech" and more often than not Indians, Chinese and Russians. And ofcourse Koreans too. One of the person's stuck in name check commented on the above link - if the FBI knew that a fifth of the nation shares the last name Kim! I guess the same would go for Wu, Yu, Zhou, Singh, Kumar etc.
rdehar
05-02 05:18 PM
Kids,
Let us talk about EB3-India category experiencing the discrimination against EB2-India. Why there are few EB3-India approvals this FY so far???????.
One of my friend with same PD as me (Jun 2004) got approved sometime in Aug/Sep 2007. His labor was pproved in a month from NH and I-485 was filed long back when dates were current for EB3 India (early 2005?).
It is for sure that there are a few EB3 approvals this FY ? I know a lot more guys with PDs in 2002 and 2003 who got approved.
Let us talk about EB3-India category experiencing the discrimination against EB2-India. Why there are few EB3-India approvals this FY so far???????.
One of my friend with same PD as me (Jun 2004) got approved sometime in Aug/Sep 2007. His labor was pproved in a month from NH and I-485 was filed long back when dates were current for EB3 India (early 2005?).
It is for sure that there are a few EB3 approvals this FY ? I know a lot more guys with PDs in 2002 and 2003 who got approved.
GCNirvana007
03-19 08:28 AM
EB1 or EB2 or EB3 is created by USCIS. We are just applicants. We were not asked to give our 2 cents to frame the rules.
So there is absolutely no logic for us to fight among self. Target is USCIS. EB2 can raise their concerns, EB3 can raise their concerns or both can do it together. Lets get that straight.
So there is absolutely no logic for us to fight among self. Target is USCIS. EB2 can raise their concerns, EB3 can raise their concerns or both can do it together. Lets get that straight.